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Hazel 5.01 on Clean Install of Big Sur 11.0.1 (20B29)

Posted:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:37 pm
by talks-to-cats
I exported and backed up all my rules before deleting and recreating my Catalina SSD volumes, then performing a clean install of Big Sur. On downloading the Hazel install file and running it I installed the application by clicking the install icon in the dialog. I didn't let Hazel create the default rules, so I ended up as expected with a Hazel window devoid of folders and rules. I attempted to import rules, and things went south from there. The Hazel window didn't display the rules, yet I could see the folders if I selected the preview window. I uninstalled and reinstalled. No luck. Eventually ended up with a gray Hazel window with no folder or rules columns and no rules. The options to create folders or import rules were gone. With nothing to lose, I went to preferences and tried different layouts to see if I could get some sort of ui in the bare gray Hazel window. In doing so, I checked the trash checkbox in preferences. As a result, I was prompted to give full disk access to Hazel. This fixed my problems. I went back and created my folders and imported my rules. A quick test shows the rules are working as expected now.
I thought I'd share in case it helps anyone else.
Re: Hazel 5.01 on Clean Install of Big Sur 11.0.1 (20B29)

Posted:
Mon Nov 23, 2020 1:10 pm
by Mr_Noodle
Can you describe what folders they were?
Re: Hazel 5.01 on Clean Install of Big Sur 11.0.1 (20B29)

Posted:
Mon Nov 23, 2020 1:23 pm
by talks-to-cats
Mr_Noodle wrote:Can you describe what folders they were?
The standard Mac Downloads folder at "/Users/xxxx/Downloads" and an Inbox at "/Users/xxxx/Documents/Files-Inbox" where I drop documents when I'm ready for Hazel to file them.
Re: Hazel 5.01 on Clean Install of Big Sur 11.0.1 (20B29)

Posted:
Mon Nov 23, 2020 1:53 pm
by garry4
Same here, clean install of Big Sur. Downloaded Hazel saw it was a new version. OK lets try it, did the install and there was no prompt to grant full disk access. I assumed my problems were due to unfamiliarity with the new version. After wasting some time I saw this post, granted full disk access and I'm in business.
Re: Hazel 5.01 on Clean Install of Big Sur 11.0.1 (20B29)

Posted:
Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:08 pm
by Mr_Noodle
There should have been a prompt to ask for access to Downloads and Documents specifically (not full disk access outright). If that didn't show up, then I think there may be a problem in the OS (it's responsible for bringing that up when the folder is accessed by a new program).
Re: Hazel 5.01 on Clean Install of Big Sur 11.0.1 (20B29)

Posted:
Mon Nov 23, 2020 5:37 pm
by talks-to-cats
Mr_Noodle wrote:There should have been a prompt to ask for access to Downloads and Documents specifically (not full disk access outright). If that didn't show up, then I think there may be a problem in the OS (it's responsible for bringing that up when the folder is accessed by a new program).
I thought that I saw that prompt when originally installed on Catalina. I definitely didn't get a prompt when installing on Big Sur, but Hazel is the only program so far that didn't show me an access prompt. I have Karabiner Elements and Keyboard Maestro installed for example. If it's helpful I can try installing Hazel on my 2017 MBP. It had a clean Big Sur install as above first, but I didn't install Hazel on it yet.
Can you tell me what security and privacy settings Hazel needs by default? I am using clean sweep and delete trash preferences so it would be helpful to know what those options add.
Re: Hazel 5.01 on Clean Install of Big Sur 11.0.1 (20B29)

Posted:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:36 am
by Mr_Noodle
Full disk access if you want to use trash options. Hazel should bring up a UI for that if you have any of those options enabled.