Unpredictable Date Formatting

Daniel Jalkut posted about his recent issues with NSDateFormatter. Having run into the same issue last month (rdar:/20512790 for you Apple folks keeping score at home), I’ve found that the issue is more confusing than that.

For one, it’s not just the 12/24-hour clock affecting HH in date formats. It seems that in some circumstances, in some locales, literal characters, like period (.), will be changed to colon (:). Not only that, this happens (at least in the case I found it) depending on whether you use hh or HH in your pattern.

Observe this output from my test program:

LOCALE: en_UA

FORMAT: MMMM d, hh.mm.ss a

January 1, 13:00:00

FORMAT: MMMM d, HH.mm.ss a

January 1, 13.00.00 PM

“en_UA” is English as the language, but Ukraine as the region. It’s important to note that there are two components here, the language and region, encoded in the locale. This is important because Apple’s suggestion to use “US_en_POSIX” is incorrect. That only works if English is your language. To do it correctly for the user’s language (not every date format uses numerical months), you need to get the locale for their current language, grab the identifier, tag “-posix” to the end and get a new locale from that. I’m not sure if this type of scheme works for all languages (anyone have documentation to this effect?) so it’s possible this won’t work for some language out there. All in all, a bit of a pain and a bit fragile for something that worked properly before.

And before some of you bring up some argument about respecting the user’s preferences, in the case where I use it, the user is specifying the pattern in the UI and wants to specify a different pattern than the one that they used in their preferences. Also, this API is at a much lower level and should respect the literal pattern provided the developer. I’d suggest the current behavior only mangle the format string when you explicitly use +dateFormatFromTemplate:options:locale: leaving format strings that don’t use that method as-is. In the very least, provide a “literal” mode when it comes to interpreting the format string.

 

Category: Cocoa, OS X, Programming One comment »

One Response to “Unpredictable Date Formatting”

  1. Helfried Näfe

    I realized that the date format in the classic layout of mail (v. 9.1) is governed by the system preferences but it is not if the non-classic layout is selected.


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